AR-15 (and AR-10) questions, answers, bullshit

Itaro

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wont be either if you don’t practice it

many disadvantages of holding the rifle back by the mag well.

You don’t have to go full extension.
I have a magpul AFG a few inches in front of the magwell. More of a traditional rifle grip
 
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AR pistol guys

What are you going to do when the ATF reverses the pistol brace decision? I'm guessing the day after inauguration.

Way I see it we'll kinda have 2 options well 3 but the 3rd isn't a very good one and involves a potential prison term.

1: Wait for the inevitable lawsuit to run its course and hope the ATF gets rightfully told to fuck off by scotus and hope they don't go looking for AR pistol owners before the court battle is settled.

2: Form 1 it as sbr and light $200 on fire, then buy another pistol lower(I'm assuming you can do that since the upper isn't the item registered) when/if the ATF gets told to fuck off by the courts.

I'm torn I mean all the writing is on the wall that Biden is going to legislate firearms especially AR platform as much as possible through the ATF and the brace issue will be item one. I guess I'm just trying to figure out if I should just form 1 it now before the rush hits and things get even more delayed vs playing the naive optimist and waiting to see.

I get it the NFA sucks but this isn't about that it's about the inevitable reality millions will be facing
 
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AR pistol guys

What are you going to do when the ATF reverses the pistol brace decision? I'm guessing the day after inauguration.

Way I see it we'll kinda have 2 options well 3 but the 3rd isn't a very good one and involves a potential prison term.

1: Wait for the inevitable lawsuit to run its course and hope the ATF gets rightfully told to fuck off by scotus and hope they don't go looking for AR pistol owners before the court battle is settled.

2: Form 1 it as sbr and light $200 on fire, then buy another pistol lower(I'm assuming you can do that since the upper isn't the item registered) when/if the ATF gets told to fuck off by the courts.

I'm torn I mean all the writing is on the wall that Biden is going to legislate firearms especially AR platform as much as possible through the ATF and the brace issue will be item one. I guess I'm just trying to figure out if I should just form 1 it now before the rush hits and things get even more delayed vs playing the naive optimist and waiting to see.

I get it the NFA sucks but this isn't about that it's about the inevitable reality millions will be facing
There will be lawsuits galore and I wouldn't worry too much about it for the time being. Worst case, it sinks to the bottom of a lake and you forget about it for awhile. If the atf comes knocking on my door. I'll hand them a stripped lower. Then mill out the 80 I'll have to dive for.
 

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AR pistol guys

What are you going to do when the ATF reverses the pistol brace decision? I'm guessing the day after inauguration.

Way I see it we'll kinda have 2 options well 3 but the 3rd isn't a very good one and involves a potential prison term.

1: Wait for the inevitable lawsuit to run its course and hope the ATF gets rightfully told to fuck off by scotus and hope they don't go looking for AR pistol owners before the court battle is settled.

2: Form 1 it as sbr and light $200 on fire, then buy another pistol lower(I'm assuming you can do that since the upper isn't the item registered) when/if the ATF gets told to fuck off by the courts.

I'm torn I mean all the writing is on the wall that Biden is going to legislate firearms especially AR platform as much as possible through the ATF and the brace issue will be item one. I guess I'm just trying to figure out if I should just form 1 it now before the rush hits and things get even more delayed vs playing the naive optimist and waiting to see.

I get it the NFA sucks but this isn't about that it's about the inevitable reality millions will be facing
My current mind of thinking is remove the brace. Put the stupid foam padding thing back on the buffer tube and then hide it with a lot of desiccant.
 

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AR pistol guys

What are you going to do when the ATF reverses the pistol brace decision? I'm guessing the day after inauguration.

Way I see it we'll kinda have 2 options well 3 but the 3rd isn't a very good one and involves a potential prison term.

1: Wait for the inevitable lawsuit to run its course and hope the ATF gets rightfully told to fuck off by scotus and hope they don't go looking for AR pistol owners before the court battle is settled.

2: Form 1 it as sbr and light $200 on fire, then buy another pistol lower(I'm assuming you can do that since the upper isn't the item registered) when/if the ATF gets told to fuck off by the courts.

I'm torn I mean all the writing is on the wall that Biden is going to legislate firearms especially AR platform as much as possible through the ATF and the brace issue will be item one. I guess I'm just trying to figure out if I should just form 1 it now before the rush hits and things get even more delayed vs playing the naive optimist and waiting to see.

I get it the NFA sucks but this isn't about that it's about the inevitable reality millions will be facing
Nothing.
 

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Can’t copy the link but look up
Joe Biden’s gun control plan
On YouTube. Everything is going to be a NFA item. It’s not gun control. It a money grab. Taxing you for something you already had. Double barreled middle finger is all I am going to give them.
 
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Can’t copy the link but look up
Joe Biden’s gun control plan
On YouTube. Everything is going to be a NFA item. It’s not gun control. It a money grab. Taxing you for something you already had. Double barreled middle finger is all I am going to give them.
I got all my papers from all of my gun purchases that say sales final, taxes paid, meets laws and yadda.

I know where the papers are but I’ve seemed to forget the the combo to the safe my father in law lent me. . .

pretty sure a search warrant in my name wouldn’t allow access to my father in law’s property anyways.
 
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AR pistol guys

What are you going to do when the ATF reverses the pistol brace decision? I'm guessing the day after inauguration.

Way I see it we'll kinda have 2 options well 3 but the 3rd isn't a very good one and involves a potential prison term.

1: Wait for the inevitable lawsuit to run its course and hope the ATF gets rightfully told to fuck off by scotus and hope they don't go looking for AR pistol owners before the court battle is settled.

2: Form 1 it as sbr and light $200 on fire, then buy another pistol lower(I'm assuming you can do that since the upper isn't the item registered) when/if the ATF gets told to fuck off by the courts.

I'm torn I mean all the writing is on the wall that Biden is going to legislate firearms especially AR platform as much as possible through the ATF and the brace issue will be item one. I guess I'm just trying to figure out if I should just form 1 it now before the rush hits and things get even more delayed vs playing the naive optimist and waiting to see.

I get it the NFA sucks but this isn't about that it's about the inevitable reality millions will be facing

1) The executive branch doesn't legislate but they will make arbitrary rules because congress is a fucking joke. SCOTUS may rule to cut that shit out but that will still take quite awhile.

2) If they make a rule against braces then you may as well just SBR that bitch and put a stock on it. Its still going to take a long time to process the paperwork and I fucking think ATF does that on purpose.

You may as well get another lower now if you can find it and start the SBR paperwork.
 
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Appreciate the input everyone

@Itaro fair point about just removing the brace in wading through all the ATF BS forgot that it's just that simple to avoid trouble

I like the idea of the SBR I just don't like what comes with it with the Stamp and registration.

But I prefer the simplicity of pistol format for travel no stamp etc etc etc

I think at this point when that day comes I'll just pull the sba3 and stash it somewhere. @oni06 lowers are fairly easy to grab especially locally there's a shop here that mills their own can just grab a parts kit and trigger to put in it already have the brace. I just wouldn't be buying another BCM lower
 
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