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Arcticelf

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Can anyone think of a reason not to turn the steering pickup on the spindle horizontal, like the upper and lower uniballs?

There's still quite a bit left in my CVs for down travel, but the steering heim has run out. 16347549022075000587470057315293.jpg
 

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Can anyone think of a reason not to turn the steering pickup on the spindle horizontal, like the upper and lower uniballs?

There's still quite a bit left in my CVs for down travel, but the steering heim has run out. View attachment 58242
Other than running out of travel, I can't think of one.
At full bump what does the heim angle look like?
If you still have room at bump, why not angle the bolt mounting to allow for clearance at bump and droop?
 

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It looks like the steering has about 40 degrees of throw, and the hiem joint can handle 35 to 40. So it should limit out about the same as the uniballs.
 

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Other than running out of travel, I can't think of one.
At full bump what does the heim angle look like?
If you still have room at bump, why not angle the bolt mounting to allow for clearance at bump and droop?

Its not quite binding at full bump, but very close.

As configured now there's no bump steer and 14" of travel, so I may just put it back together and go wheeling.
 

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Its not quite binding at full bump, but very close.

As configured now there's no bump steer and 14" of travel, so I may just put it back together and go wheeling.
What's your total turning angle?
Pretty sure you would run out of travel on the mislagn if you ran them horizontal.
14" is damn impressive.
Forgot you had your balls horizontal also. Go for it.
You can always add to your steering stops to stop them from binding. You are used to barely being able to steer....lol
 

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Can anyone think of a reason not to turn the steering pickup on the spindle horizontal, like the upper and lower uniballs?

There's still quite a bit left in my CVs for down travel, but the steering heim has run out. View attachment 58242
I don't see why that would be an issue.

What size bolt are you running? Can you go with higher misalignment spacers or a larger heim to run a higher misalignment spacer with the same size bolt?
 

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What's your total turning angle?
Pretty sure you would run out of travel on the mislagn if you ran them horizontal.
14" is damn impressive.
Forgot you had your balls horizontal also. Go for it.
You can always add to your steering stops to stop them from binding. You are used to barely being able to steer....lol

I've got 4.5" of travel in the rack, which is about 40 degrees of deflection at the spindle. The horizontal uniballs already limit that, the rack could do another 3/4" of travel with a stock setup.

For a +1.5 LT yeah, 14" is good. Theoretically I could get 16" out of the axles, but packaging on the UCA prevents that because the spindle and UCA approach parallel.


I don't see why that would be an issue.

What size bolt are you running? Can you go with higher misalignment spacers or a larger heim to run a higher misalignment spacer with the same size bolt?

5/8" or 9/16 I'll have to check. I could probably get away with a 1/2". I'll have to dig into the spec sheets on Kartek and see what the options are.

Changing the actual hiem joint is harder because I already have tie rods, I suppose it's an option though.
 

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Looks like you could maybe fit a wheel with a more positive offset on the front. Would help reduce scrub

Not much, the top of the spindle is pretty close to the inner lip. I also still have to get a hydro bump in there close to the spindle.

I need to measure scrub and kingpin angle on the final version, but before I started adjusting for packaging constraints on the wheel both were good.
 
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