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Airdog

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Kind of a shitty failure while driving on a highway in afternoon traffic. Didn't die though!!
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One of the causes (maybe a main one), not bolting down a brake line bracket after installing a reinforced spindle. My bad, I guess...
Have to get longer bolts

Same thing happened to itaro in death valley, for the same reason. Fortunately his snapped going uphill instead of a downhill section we were about to hit. We managed to flare out the end enough to get it back into the caliper without leaking, bled it some, and crawled back the way we came in 4low to find a camp for the night. @Airdog made a 3 hour round trip parts run so we could finish the rest of the trip.
That is the exact reason Johnstons broke....he failed to bolt it back to the spindle and the vibration over time snapped it. Literally another 2 minutes and it would have been on a steep downhill portion of hunter mountain in DV
 
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Same thing happened to itaro in death valley, for the same reason. Fortunately his snapped going uphill instead of a downhill section we were about to hit. We managed to flare out the end enough to get it back into the caliper without leaking, bled it some, and crawled back the way we came in 4low to find a camp for the night. @Airdog made a 3 hour round trip parts run so we could finish the rest of the trip.

That is the exact reason Johnstons broke....he failed to bolt it back to the spindle and the vibration over time snapped it. Literally another 2 minutes and it would have been on a steep downhill portion of hunter mountain in DV
Damn!!
Silly bracket, and stupid oversight.
Definitely getting longer bolts and get them installed today!
 

Octanejunkie

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Kind of a shitty failure while driving on a highway in afternoon traffic. Didn't die though!!
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One of the causes (maybe a main one), not bolting down a brake line bracket after installing a reinforced spindle. My bad, I guess...
Have to get longer bolts
Glad everyone is okay and you didn't wreck the truck.

I'm looking into this now, securing the brake line with a reinforced spindle. I have a few ideas...

How did you ultimately solve it?
 

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Glad everyone is okay and you didn't wreck the truck.

I'm looking into this now, securing the brake line with a reinforced spindle. I have a few ideas...

How did you ultimately solve it?
Personally I like how it solved itself with the LT kit I bought from JDFab. Stainless braided brake line from the frame to the caliper. They changed the caliper fitting to a banjo type and then an adapter from the stock toyota fitting to the brake line on the frame side. You can have crown performance make anything you want.
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Banjo at the caliper
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Glad everyone is okay and you didn't wreck the truck.

I'm looking into this now, securing the brake line with a reinforced spindle. I have a few ideas...

How did you ultimately solve it?
:thumbsup: yeah, me too!

Didn't yet. Have to go to Autozone with the short stock bolt, get a longer one, drill out the hole in the bracket and make it work

Edit
As for brake line, got some 3/16" m10x1* hard 8" lines from Autozone and made it work


*actually, couldn't get those, so got two different ones with proper fittings on one side, flaring tool, a bender, and then made them work.
 
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Personally I like how it solved itself with the LT kit I bought from JDFab. Stainless braided brake line from the frame to the caliper. They changed the caliper fitting to a banjo type and stayed with the m10 x1.0 inverted flare at the frame side. You can have crown performance make anything you want.
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I like how you solved it!

Figured there must be a reason for the hard line. Maybe there isn't tho...
I have Crown's lines, and I don't dig how outer coating cracked within 2 years
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They say it's fine, just an outer anesthetic coating, but still
 

Stairgod

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I like how you solved it!

Figured there must be a reason for the hard line. Maybe there isn't tho...
I have Crown's lines, and I don't dig how outer coating cracked within 2 years
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They say it's fine, just an outer anesthetic coating, but still
Hard line is cheaper. And where the factory puts it the flex line is less likely to get rubbed.
I have braided lines from the frame down, and sometimes there is some slight rub on components depending on how the wheel is positioned
 

Octanejunkie

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Hard line is cheaper. And where the factory puts it the flex line is less likely to get rubbed.
I have braided lines from the frame down, and sometimes there is some slight rub on components depending on how the wheel is positioned
Toytec and Wheelers both sell SS Taco caliper kits with longer lines and Banjo fittings.

It would solve the gusset interference/where to mount the hose/hardline transition
 
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Personally I like how it solved itself with the LT kit I bought from JDFab. Stainless braided brake line from the frame to the caliper. They changed the caliper fitting to a banjo type and then an adapter from the stock toyota fitting to the brake line on the frame side. You can have crown performance make anything you want.
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Banjo at the caliper
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Toytec and Wheelers both sell SS Taco caliper kits with longer lines and Banjo fittings.

It would solve the gusset interference/where to mount the hose/hardline transition
What is so special about those banjo fittings? Is it just because it keeps the line closer/tighter to a caliper, or something else?
 

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Toytec and Wheelers both sell SS Taco caliper kits with longer lines and Banjo fittings.

It would solve the gusset interference/where to mount the hose/hardline transition
I have Stop Tech 6 pistons and the lines came with the kit.
 

Octanejunkie

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What is so special about those banjo fittings? Is it just because it keeps the line closer/tighter to a caliper, or something else?
I don't think the banjo fitting is special at all, but it does what you say as well as eliminating the small, vulnerable hardline and reduces one more leak point/connection in the circuit.

FWIW, the extended lines are 2" longer than stock Taco lines (19") and can be routed/attached to the spindle in several ways
 
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