Outboard Rear Shock Ideas

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You can see how close the shock is to the tire here. Any further up, it’ll start getting closer. I’m sure you could get it a little higher up but idk how much further you could get

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That is exactly what I was thinking except I'm going to try and go rearward with them. It just looks like there's more room back there to get them higher.

I'm going to guess you've wheeled it a bit since then. Any problems with contact at full articulation? What size tires are you running and how wide are your spacers?
See my post above. Got the pics fixed
 

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See my post above. Got the pics fixed

I see what your getting at. It's time to do some cycling and check angles. Maybe next weekend. I guess if I really want to do this I might have to notch the frame? You notched for your hydro bumps right? Are you worried about it not being strong enough there?
 

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I see what your getting at. It's time to do some cycling and check angles. Maybe next weekend. I guess if I really want to do this I might have to notch the frame? You notched for your hydro bumps right? Are you worried about it not being strong enough there?
I’m not worried about strength with this setup. I notched for bumps and shocks.

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Hey I came up with an idea for some rear shocks . So basically its an f 250 front shock mount I cut it in half and notched it in the frame the welded all the way around and for the lower mount i cut that shit off and got a really heavy duty mount by total chaos and welded that to the axle . The shocks im running are bilsteins 7100 race series 2.25x12" I will probably long travel the front of my 4runner soon so what i will do back here is cut the mount off that i made and make a tube mount that goes higher and run a 14" king 2.5 . so If your going to run a 12" this is a great system i pull alot of travel out of this.
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this picture my wheel isn't off the ground yet... i usually have to run limit straps when im jumping and moving fast but on slow trails i let her droop this setup isn't as attractive as some others but gets the job done well
 

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Hey I came up with an idea for some rear shocks . So basically its an f 250 front shock mount I cut it in half and notched it in the frame the welded all the way around and for the lower mount i cut that shit off and got a really heavy duty mount by total chaos and welded that to the axle . The shocks im running are bilsteins 7100 race series 2.25x12" I will probably long travel the front of my 4runner soon so what i will do back here is cut the mount off that i made and make a tube mount that goes higher and run a 14" king 2.5 . so If your going to run a 12" this is a great system i pull alot of travel out of this.
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this picture my wheel isn't off the ground yet... i usually have to run limit straps when im jumping and moving fast but on slow trails i let her droop this setup isn't as attractive as some others but gets the job done well
Awesome! Thanks for sharing! :rockon:
 

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OK Gents. Here's the deal. My rear lower shock mounts are getting torn apart. I'm over it and am seriously considering outboading them. The idea it to mount them at the center of rear axle. Then kick them forward or backwards with new shock towers mounted to the frame.

Let's see some photo's of your outboards. Let's also tell me why this is a horrible idea that will never work. lol

Well here's mine, 2x10 Kings. 4 inch backspacing on the rims and no spacers.
I mounted mine in front of the rear axle for the same reason everyone has said. I have seen one truck with my same shocks but behind the rear axle and he said it severely limited flex because of the roll steer.
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Well here's mine, 2x10 Kings. 4 inch backspacing on the rims and no spacers.
I mounted mine in front of the rear axle for the same reason everyone has said. I have seen one truck with my same shocks but behind the rear axle and he said it severely limited flex because of the roll steer.


Do you think you would hit frame if your kings were 2.5"? I have a good friend that is trying to fit 2.5 radflo rr 8" (really 9") under his rear.

He ordered the low range universal kit with 12" hoops and he's being a big ol pussc about notching his frame.
 

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I absolutely would have hit with 2.5s. Right now under full flex I only have 1/16 maybe 1/8 of clearance between the frame and the shock body and maybe 1/2 inch between the tire and shock with 4 inch backspace rims. I'll have to most likely move my mounts inboard a touch when I go to 35s to be able to not rub the tire. Notching the frame isn't a big deal though. Just actually brace and plate things and don't be the idiot that just cuts into it and fills the hole and it will be fine. Tell him to to quit being a puss and cut that shit up

You can see here it just barely clears
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Being only 8 (9) inch shocks though you might he able to clear it. The shorter free length will allow you to be able to shift the upper mount down an inch which may be just enough.
 
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I was going to try to run the Envision Fabrication outboard rear shock relocation kit but they have been on a hiatus for a while. I have some Fox 12” 2.0 w/ res to install, so I’m brainstorming for a solution since I don’t have a bender. None of the other plated style relocation brackets are meant for 12” shocks (at least not for a 3rd gen T4R), so I’m thinking I’ll want to stick with the 1.5” tube hoop style for my outboard relocation. Plus I like that the large hoop clears the stock bump area for running hydro bumps later, and also gives me a spot on the tube to mount the resi’s to out of the way.

Here’s what I’m thinking. Get the Low Range 20” generic hoops and make a couple cuts where the tubes are bent and add a straight piece approx 12”-15” and reweld it together. That would give me the exact shaped hoop that Envision sells and I can cut the extra plate for the upper shock tabs easily, and get an off the shelf set of lower shock brackets (maybe 3”- 5” from axle tube to eyelet of the bracket?). Not sure which ones to go with yet.

One benefit, although not really a huge motivating factor, is the cost. The Envision kit is $300+ and I think I can get the DIY stuff for roughly $100 but it’s a lot more figuring shit out myself and to be honest I’d rather pay more to have something I can just weld on and run easily. The Low Range hoops are $55 and lower shock brackets are $25+ depending on who I get them from.

Envision’s kit
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Low Range 20” shock hoop kit
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I was going to try to run the Envision Fabrication outboard rear shock relocation kit but they have been on a hiatus for a while. I have some Fox 12” 2.0 w/ res to install, so I’m brainstorming for a solution since I don’t have a bender. None of the other plated style relocation brackets are meant for 12” shocks (at least not for a 3rd gen T4R), so I’m thinking I’ll want to stick with the 1.5” tube hoop style for my outboard relocation. Plus I like that the large hoop clears the stock bump area for running hydro bumps later, and also gives me a spot on the tube to mount the resi’s to out of the way.

Here’s what I’m thinking. Get the Low Range 20” generic hoops and make a couple cuts where the tubes are bent and add a straight piece approx 12”-15” and reweld it together. That would give me the exact shaped hoop that Envision sells and I can cut the extra plate for the upper shock tabs easily, and get an off the shelf set of lower shock brackets (maybe 3”- 5” from axle tube to eyelet of the bracket?). Not sure which ones to go with yet.

One benefit, although not really a huge motivating factor, is the cost. The Envision kit is $300+ and I think I can get the DIY stuff for roughly $100 but it’s a lot more figuring shit out myself and to be honest I’d rather pay more to have something I can just weld on and run easily. The Low Range hoops are $55 and lower shock brackets are $25+ depending on who I get them from.

Envision’s kit
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Low Range 20” shock hoop kit
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Make friends with someone who has access to a tube bender?
 
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