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Aight. I’m buying a “chase” radio. I was referred the icom f5201. $400 gets you the radio, cable, antennae and antennae mount. Also already programmed. Do I just stick with that and pay the premium or try and piece together cheaper stuff? Needs to be 50 watt and 136-174 frequency range.

using for Baja trips in the minivan.
 
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Aight. I’m buying a “chase” radio. I was referred the icom f5201. $400 gets you the radio, cable, antennae and antennae mount. Also already programmed. Do I just stick with that and pay the premium or try and piece together cheaper stuff? Needs to be 50 watt and 136-174 frequency range.

using for Baja trips in the minivan.
I piece together my own stuff, but that is right around what you would pay for from what I am seeing with what you are getting. Plus it is already programmed. Are you actually part of some sort of "team support" or something? Other than that, the 50W only comes into play with TX. RX comes into play with how good your antenna gain is and such.

In any case, it is definitely nice to have a radio that does 50W of TX power.

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You also have some similar 2m radios that cost roughly $150-$200 like the Kenwood TM-281A that I believe TX 65W max power. But, don't skimp out on getting a cheap antenna. So, you probably can save maybe around $100 or just under when all said and done? I don't know unless I piece out parts myself and that is just an off the wall guesstimate. My point being is that there are LOTS of radios out there and it comes down to preference on how one wants their setup.

Me, I would just get a 2-band or 3-band for about $130 or thereabouts, but they are typically 25W or thereabouts and rarely anything above 50W. Again, you would have to do research on what you would want more specifically.
 
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I piece together my own stuff, but that is right around what you would pay for from what I am seeing with what you are getting. Plus it is already programmed. Are you actually part of some sort of "team support" or something? Other than that, the 50W only comes into play with TX. RX comes into play with how good your antenna gain is and such.

In any case, it is definitely nice to have a radio that does 50W of TX power.

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You also have some similar 2m radios that cost roughly $150-$200 like the Kenwood TM-281A that I believe TX 65W max power. But, don't skimp out on getting a cheap antenna. So, you probably can save maybe around $100 or just under when all said and done? I don't know unless I piece out parts myself and that is just an off the wall guesstimate. My point being is that there are LOTS of radios out there and it comes down to preference on how one wants their setup.

Me, I would just get a 2-band or 3-band for about $130 or thereabouts, but they are typically 25W or thereabouts and rarely anything above 50W. Again, you would have to do research on what you would want more specifically.

thanks for the reply. So it’s for a organized 6 day trip to baja. He requires 50watt due to how spread out we will get. I tried piecing together stuff but still ended up close to the icom setup. I’m a total newb for radios so that doesn’t help.
 
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thanks for the reply. So it’s for a organized 6 day trip to baja. He requires 50watt due to how spread out we will get. I tried piecing together stuff but still ended up close to the icom setup. I’m a total newb for radios so that doesn’t help.
Yeah, which is kinda what I was leaning towards regarding piecing it out. But do trying looking at the Kenwood TM-281A as it is a 65W max TX power, 2m (your 150MHz frequency range) with the only exception is that you would have to perform a small modification to "open up the frequency band", which I've heard is an extremely easy thing to do. I've never done it, but I've heard that it is very easy.

Anyways, if you were to start there, you SHOULD be able to find a 2m antenna for around $50 like the one in the link below... (approx $50)
https://www.hamradio.com/detail.cfm?pid=H0-000101

As far as I know, just about ALL of the race radio frequencies are around 150MHz-154MHz and rarely below that... BUT, you will need to verify what the freq list is for your event. I'm pointing this out because you want your antenna "tuned" to whatever frequency you're TX'ing at. For RX, you could practically use a regular wire for an antenna as the RX is NOT terribly important to worry about although an antenna that has gain would be very helpful. The one in the link is like 4.1dB, which is pretty good and it's 5/8 wave which would be ideal for more closer to the ground unless you plan on TX'ing/RX'ing to repeater systems sitting on mountain tops then, theoretically, a 1/4 wave antenna would be more ideal?

Anyways, the Kenwood TM-281A is: (approx $150)
https://www.theantennafarm.com/cata...qSYuVkeQoNksE9ax4aAkiqEALw_wcB&cPath=66_67_70

Cable, mount, maybe a couple of RF adapters... all for probably around $75-$100 off the top of my head.

Then factoring in shipping costs, assuming you have to ship, is going to add $$$.

Now, you have to program the radio yourself, do the mod, etc etc etc.

So, you MIGHT save some cash, but you have to ask yourself how much time are you willing to invest in it or do you want more "plug and play"?

Finally, regarding the RF adapters, you MIGHT need an "elbow" similar to this one... see the link below
https://www.theantennafarm.com/cata...qSYuVkeQoNksE9ax4aAkiqEALw_wcB&cPath=66_67_70

The adapter is very useful if you have to mount your radio in a fairly tight spot to where there is very little room in the back against, typically the firewall of the vehicle.

Again, keep in mind about likely having to need any RF adapters and such and how you plan on routing your antenna feed line. If it is going to be a magmount style antenna, then just throw the cable through and open window or sometimes you can even shut the car/vehicle door without damaging the cable... sometimes. You just need to check and make sure.

If you're on a motorcycle, I have NO CLUE how to help you there as I've never mounted an antenna on a bike. You'd have to figure that one out just by looking at it and trial and error with the mount.

Oh, and before I forget, make sure that you have a GROUND PLANE!!! Most antenna setups need a "ground plane" and it all depends on how your setup is (i.e. boat, car, truck, etc etc etc). Likely you WILL need a ground plane and to basically solve that, just make sure you have good "contact" to your vehicles ground/metal chassis. If your mount is painted, which it will likely be, make sure to scratch off any paint that will make contact to your vehicle chassis. Try not to mount your mount on any plastic part of the vehicle to where there will typically be no ground contact point.

Anyways, that is my take on it and I hope this somewhat helps?
 
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Hey @WileECoyote,
I have that TM-281A that I ordered from Amazon last year. I was gonna buy the same one for my dad for Christmas but looks like it shows unavailable. Any idea if they are not being sold anymore? I'd really like to get one but at this point it might be too late for a Christmas present. I almost pulled the trigger on ordering one from The Antenna Farm last week but meant to call to see if they were in stock.

Any brick and mortar shops in SoCal that sell radios I could pick up from?
 
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The only place that I really know of is HAM Radio Outlet in Anaheim near the 91fwy and Euclid. They can be a little pricey, but not really all that bad. When you are about to purchase whatever it is, they will typically ask, "what is your HAM license..." and just simply tell them, "I don't have one..." and just leave it at that. So, don't be afraid in thinking that you need one... HAHAHAHA, all they care about in the end is the SALE!!!

I'm just letting you know ahead of time of what they will ask and just simply what to say. I've never had a problem with them and I bought by Yaesu FT-60R well before I got my HAM license. :thumbsup:

Anyways, that is the only brick and mortar store I know about and go to. I haven't been there for a while now and I'm pretty sure there is walk-in now as most places are, but I would call first.

Regarding the Kenwood, that is a pretty old radio and some places will still likely have them, but you'd have to search on-line. If one ever plans on "hacking a radio" to open the frequency bands up, DO YOUR RESEARCH FIRST and DO NOT ASSUME that there are YT videos showing how to hack a specific radio. I keep telling people this, but eventually in my head I just say, "you do you" as I tire of arguing over nothing.

I personally don't like hacking my radios because there is a chance of "bricking them". Pretty rare as bricking them usually comes from when you are uploading any kind of "modified" configuration and/or sometimes firmware, depends on which you are doing. At my old job, I was responsible for reconfiguring radios like the Motorola CDM series, Motorola XTL series, Motorola Astro Spectra (HAHAHA, talk about an old radio), and we even had some M/A Com Harris radios for testing.

HAHAHA, I hope this helps... I get "chatty" and either you or @4runner DOA is going to find a way to limit the number of letters I can type, but then you'd have an unGODLY NUMBER of posts!!! :anon::noidea::rofl::rofl::rofl:
 

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The only place that I really know of is HAM Radio Outlet in Anaheim near the 91fwy and Euclid. They can be a little pricey, but not really all that bad. When you are about to purchase whatever it is, they will typically ask, "what is your HAM license..." and just simply tell them, "I don't have one..." and just leave it at that. So, don't be afraid in thinking that you need one... HAHAHAHA, all they care about in the end is the SALE!!!

I'm just letting you know ahead of time of what they will ask and just simply what to say. I've never had a problem with them and I bought by Yaesu FT-60R well before I got my HAM license. :thumbsup:

Anyways, that is the only brick and mortar store I know about and go to. I haven't been there for a while now and I'm pretty sure there is walk-in now as most places are, but I would call first.

Regarding the Kenwood, that is a pretty old radio and some places will still likely have them, but you'd have to search on-line. If one ever plans on "hacking a radio" to open the frequency bands up, DO YOUR RESEARCH FIRST and DO NOT ASSUME that there are YT videos showing how to hack a specific radio. I keep telling people this, but eventually in my head I just say, "you do you" as I tire of arguing over nothing.

I personally don't like hacking my radios because there is a chance of "bricking them". Pretty rare as bricking them usually comes from when you are uploading any kind of "modified" configuration and/or sometimes firmware, depends on which you are doing. At my old job, I was responsible for reconfiguring radios like the Motorola CDM series, Motorola XTL series, Motorola Astro Spectra (HAHAHA, talk about an old radio), and we even had some M/A Com Harris radios for testing.

HAHAHA, I hope this helps... I get "chatty" and either you or @4runner DOA is going to find a way to limit the number of letters I can type, but then you'd have an unGODLY NUMBER of posts!!! :anon::noidea::rofl::rofl::rofl:
Thanks for the info. I'll give them a call and see if they have it in stock. If not, is there any other sub $200 radio you recommend? I'm sure they all have some sort of feature that can be hacked (I hope). We use the off band ranges predominantly because there is less traffic on them. Never really cared about the legality of it. I hacked mine and it was super easy with a pair of tweezers and a soldering iron.
 

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Looks like they don't have the Kenwood in stock but they do have the Icom IC-2300h which seems like an equivalent radio and can be modded which is great too. I'm heading over there now :thumbsup:
 
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Looks like they don't have the Kenwood in stock but they do have the Icom IC-2300h which seems like an equivalent radio and can be modded which is great too. I'm heading over there now :thumbsup:
Sweet deal!!! I hope everything works out okay. :thumbsup::beerscheers:

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I just read the specs and very nice radio and pretty much an exact equivalent to the Kenwood!!! Very nice!!! :thumbsup:
 
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Hey @WileECoyote,
I have that TM-281A that I ordered from Amazon last year. I was gonna buy the same one for my dad for Christmas but looks like it shows unavailable. Any idea if they are not being sold anymore? I'd really like to get one but at this point it might be too late for a Christmas present. I almost pulled the trigger on ordering one from The Antenna Farm last week but meant to call to see if they were in stock.

Any brick and mortar shops in SoCal that sell radios I could pick up from?

Dude. Find that one I linked during amazon prime days. Don't even have to mod it and it works well. @Airdog and and @lord helmet both used them while we were in death valley.
 
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BTECH Mini UV-25X2 25 Watt Dual Band Base, Mobile Radio: VHF, UHF Amateur (Ham) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XD3CQ6H/ref=cm_sw_r_sm_apa_fabc_FtM3FbR6HDTBC?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Thanks brotha!!! :thumbsup::beerscheers:

Yeah, THOSE are very nice. I always highly advise 2 or more band radios because it opens up many options on what you can do with said radio, but when people are exhibiting specs that are more specific then it starts to dwindle down the opportunities on what is suitable for their needs, if you get my meaning.

Anyways, keep in mind that the FC"CEE" is starting to enforce imported Chinese and/or similar radios to where they are "locked" to the HAM bands only. Now, you SHOULD still be able to open up the frequency bands, but then you have to buy the programming cable and download whatever software you need to unlock those frequencies... OR... like some radios, you open it up and do some soldering related stuff to open the frequency bands.

Whatever the case, they are starting to crack down on radios that already have their frequency bands wide open.
 
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I just told ham radio outlet I was getting stuff as a gift and reading parts #s off a list. No questions about license or anything :spy::spy::spy:
They will "typically ask", not always. HAHAHAHAHA, but since you look to be NORTH Korean, I WOULD have asked due to possible infiltration into our country!!! BUT, this is Kommifornia, so it wouldn't surprise me one bit... "nothing to see here... move on..." :rolledeyes::doh::rofl::rofl::rofl:

This is you as a Master Jedi... :rofl::rofl::rofl: Muh NINJA!!! :spy::thumbsup:
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Thanks brotha!!! :thumbsup::beerscheers:

Yeah, THOSE are very nice. I always highly advise 2 or more band radios because it opens up many options on what you can do with said radio, but when people are exhibiting specs that are more specific then it starts to dwindle down the opportunities on what is suitable for their needs, if you get my meaning.

Anyways, keep in mind that the FC"CEE" is starting to enforce imported Chinese and/or similar radios to where they are "locked" to the HAM bands only. Now, you SHOULD still be able to open up the frequency bands, but then you have to buy the programming cable and download whatever software you need to unlock those frequencies... OR... like some radios, you open it up and do some soldering related stuff to open the frequency bands.

Whatever the case, they are starting to crack down on radios that already have their frequency bands wide open.

I got one for the Tacoma. Need a new antenna base for the 4runner. The tape or whatever on the bottom of the magnet tore so the mounting bolts/nuts are rusted as fuck and affecting my receiving range. Had major issues hearing @Airdog when he got more than a 1/2 mile ahead of me.
 

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I got one for the Tacoma. Need a new antenna base for the 4runner. The tape or whatever on the bottom of the magnet tore so the mounting bolts/nuts are rusted as fuck and affecting my receiving range. Had major issues hearing @Airdog when he got more than a 1/2 mile ahead of me.
I might get one for the tundra. Good to have when heading out to the desert towing the rigs.
 
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