This is one of the few acceptable times in this world to “go blue”
Fuck king.
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Fuck king.
Sounds like you just need to upgrade your shock all around.
I'm not into any specific brand really, but I don't think I'll be going with Kings unless I get a good deal on them. It'll be whoever has the best product, for the best cost at the time I am ready to buy. That's if I even buy new. I might just go used if I can find a good deal on something.This is one of the few acceptable times in this world to “go blue”
Not quite ready to do that yet. My shocks work okay for what I use them for right now and I built the rear suspension around the current shock measurements, so switching to a different shock means compromising my up travel or completely redoing my bumps or shock mounts. It's just the valving needs to be stiffer.
My long term goal is to do 18" coilovers and bypasses in the rear after I long travel the front and build a cage. I can't be really driving much faster than I am now without a cage. I need a wider rear axle before I can fit the shocks I want in there. Need to go wider up front first though. See how it's all these things waiting on each other to do something else? It's gonna get really expensive really quick once I start tackling these projects, and I have very little time to do anything big right now.
Yup, i get it. Bigger plans for what you want and not worth buying temp shocks just for a temp fix. Sounds like the final product is gonna be pretty bad ass though.
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I giggle every time I see @IEatA$$ subtly trying to stir up shit on TW in threads about shocks.
You'll never get those clowns installing 3.0 stock length shocks to admit they have no idea wtf they are doing. I'd bet my paycheck that not only do they not know how those internal bypasses work, they don't know how those external bypasses work either. They just want the most expensive bling they can bolt on their truck.
You'll also never convince those overland idiots that want to LT their trucks to chill out and get some experience before dumping retarded amounts of money into their trucks.
I've lost count of the amount of those idiots I've seen dump 30k in parts and God knows how much in labor, just to turn around and sell it less than 6 months later.
You'll never get those clowns installing 3.0 stock length shocks to admit they have no idea wtf they are doing. I'd bet my paycheck that not only do they not know how those internal bypasses work, they don't know how those external bypasses work either. They just want the most expensive bling they can bolt on their truck.
You'll also never convince those overland idiots that want to LT their trucks to chill out and get some experience before dumping retarded amounts of money into their trucks.
I've lost count of the amount of those idiots I've seen dump 30k in parts and God knows how much in labor, just to turn around and sell it less than 6 months later.
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madtaco461
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Lol, you see the 4.0 bypass for a lt tundra?
madtaco461
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Naw, I don't pay much attention to anything automotive outside of Tacomas. But if king is going after the Tacoma-pointless-bling-market, I'm sure they will probably hit the market for every make/model they can.
Just because you can fit it doesn't mean you should. Fox is having just as much fun with the raptors and tundras. 4.0 shock shaft is almost as thick as the spindle.
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When I freshened up my front coil overs a few months ago..
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How many miles did you run those before rebuilding? I haven't rebuilt mine yet, I'm assuming they are passed due now.
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I think for us it should be every 2 maybe 3 years if using the Fox Red Fluid. The Red handles the heat much better that the Fox Blue Fluid. Red is 7wt, Blue is 5wt. I think the consensus is that the Fox Red is preferred over the King oil formula because of the higher boiling point index that Fox has. And if anyone is interested, I may know a source for the equivalent of what Icon uses for their shock oil.
I had my icons done after 40k, which was apparently overdue according to DC shocks. Hah. I'll do the ads at 25k or something. Maybe once every 2 years since I'm only doing about 12k/year on them.
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Kurt at DC does our bypass and coil/over rebuilds after each race because fuck those 4.5" 6 tube bypasses.
sidenote: Kurt's a genius when it comes to shock tuning
Yeah super awesome to work with when I was getting my icons done. If I decide to tune these ads shocks I'll probably go to him first to pick his brain or have them do it.
madtaco461
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You get discount on a gallon of fox red?
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I get the racer discount through McKenzies, not very much tho.
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Thanks, no worries. At least my shocks are small.
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@ArcticelfThis looks like a fun thread.
Yes, I was just about to put up a write up on Kings and draw some fire on my position
I'm running Kings all around now: stock replacement with extended travel (just the spacer removed) in the front, and 12" smooth body with a BAMF relocate in the back. It's a massive improvement over the ICONS I had, better handling and feel at all speeds and road conditions.
Valving in the back is 20/08 with a flutter under the first shim. This setup was great with my HD pack, but it's a little too much for my Dakars. I think 18/08 would be better. Gas pressure is 175PSI.
Front valving is stock from DSMS, but getting changed for more compression, with a flutter, and less rebound. Gas pressure is 150PSI.
One interesting thing I've found is that re-gassing shocks the pressure goes up 5 to 10 PSI as the gas warms up, since it's quite cold coming out of the tank.
Valving in the back is 20/08 with a flutter under the first shim. This setup was great with my HD pack, but it's a little too much for my Dakars. I think 18/08 would be better. Gas pressure is 175PSI.
Front valving is stock from DSMS, but getting changed for more compression, with a flutter, and less rebound. Gas pressure is 150PSI.
One interesting thing I've found is that re-gassing shocks the pressure goes up 5 to 10 PSI as the gas warms up, since it's quite cold coming out of the tank.