The 3RZ HiluxSurf on 37s Build

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GET OUT OF MY ASS. :flamethrow:

I love my rear bump stops and I don't care who knows it! :banana:

Yeah, its not a triangulated 4 link cut into the cargo area for maximum bumps, but its better than stock/ what my previous setup was. I thoroughly enjoy how my rear rides compared to other similarly set up 3rd gens (Few and far between) I can hit nearly and whoop, divot, ditch on moderate trails at 30-40 mph and my rear soaks it up great. I'm now working on setting the front up to handle it as well as the rear. A shock revalve and air bumps up front is in the very near future.
Just giving you shit, just because I can haha :flipoff:
Your setup is significantly better than 99% of the 3rd gens out there. I'm sure it rides amazing compared to what you had before. Hydro bumps make a world of difference. I'm on the same page now. I need to focus on the front end. Hopefully by the time I have enough money to do LT, @4Running Daily finishes his LT kit, and I can get in on one of his kits. :boink: A hell of a lot easier than making my own.
 
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Just giving you shit, just because I can haha :flipoff:
Your setup is significantly better than 99% of the 3rd gens out there. I'm sure it rides amazing compared to what you had before. Hydro bumps make a world of difference. I'm on the same page now. I need to focus on the front end. Hopefully by the time I have enough money to do LT, @4Running Daily finishes his LT kit, and I can get in on one of his kits. :boink: A hell of a lot easier than making my own.
I need to catch up to your guys rear ends now haha.
 

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I need to catch up to your guys rear ends now haha.
If you don't plan to do mega huge shocks/coilovers in the rear, you don't really need to go through the extensive 4-link setup like I did. However, if you want to really have some true rear LT, then you'll need to get much longer shocks. My long term goal is 18" Coilovers and Bypasses in the rear tied into a cage. If you want to save some time and money, do leafs. You can do legit LT for like 1/3rd of the cost of links and coilovers.
 
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If you don't plan to do mega huge shocks/coilovers in the rear, you don't really need to go through the extensive 4-link setup like I did. However, if you want to really have some true rear LT, then you'll need to get much longer shocks. My long term goal is 18" Coilovers and Bypasses in the rear tied into a cage. If you want to save some time and money, do leafs. You can do legit LT for like 1/3rd of the cost of links and coilovers.
I have seriously considered leafs. Currently have a buddy with a SAS'd 4BT 3rd gen swapping his rear to leafs. So may be copying him.
 
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Don' leaf it for the love of everything high and mighty.

That's like going backwards in time.

Let me guess, he wants chevy 63s?

Idk, I bet they flex like crazy, just seems to be counter intuitive to me.
 

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Don' leaf it for the love of everything high and mighty.

That's like going backwards in time.

Let me guess, he wants chevy 63s?

Idk, I bet they flex like crazy, just seems to be counter intuitive to me.
Depends. Does he want real long travel numbers? If so, he needs to do long links or leafs. Does he have the time, ability, and budget for links? Leafs are still a great way to achieve a really well performing rear suspension for only a fraction of the cost of coilovers and links. Think about the cost of a well thought out 4-link setup. I've already invested roughly $1400 into my link setup (Including all the joints, brackets, tower, materials, hydro bumps, etc.) and that's a decent cost in my opinion. Now if I want to do legit long travel, I'd need to buy coilovers and bypasses ($3-4k right there alone), then all the fab work to mount coilovers and bypasses through the body and tied into something strong enough to support the sprung weight of the vehicle on hard hits (i.e. cage). At this point you'd need a wider axle to do this outboard of the frame rails.

With leafs, you pay less than $1,000 for a set of leaves that can be setup relatively easy in a weekend. Pick up a set of bypasses for $1,200 - $2,000 and fab up something to mount some shocks to through the body (i.e some shock hoops tied together with a cross bar). I'd still suggest a wider axle to mount outboard of the frame rails.

With leafs you save a shit ton of time, and save a couple grand in costs. I see prerunners run a set of leaves all the time and handle just fine. You can't really compare trailing arm 4-link to a short course style 4-link. Two totally different animals. I do agree that links are better than leafs, but you gotta consider at what cost.
 
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Depends. Does he want real long travel numbers? If so, he needs to do long links or leafs. Does he have the time, ability, and budget for links? Leafs are still a great way to achieve a really well performing rear suspension for only a fraction of the cost of coilovers and links. Think about the cost of a well thought out 4-link setup. I've already invested roughly $1400 into my link setup (Including all the joints, brackets, tower, materials, hydro bumps, etc.) and that's a decent cost in my opinion. Now if I want to do legit long travel, I'd need to buy coilovers and bypasses ($3-4k right there alone), then all the fab work to mount coilovers and bypasses through the body and tied into something strong enough to support the sprung weight of the vehicle on hard hits (i.e. cage). At this point you'd need a wider axle to do this outboard of the frame rails.

With leafs, you pay less than $1,000 for a set of leaves that can be setup relatively easy in a weekend. Pick up a set of bypasses for $1,200 - $2,000 and fab up something to mount some shocks to through the body (i.e some shock hoops tied together with a cross bar). I'd still suggest a wider axle to mount outboard of the frame rails.

With leafs you save a shit ton of time, and save a couple grand in costs. I see prerunners run a set of leaves all the time and handle just fine. You can't really compare trailing arm 4-link to a short course style 4-link. Two totally different animals. I do agree that links are better than leafs, but you gotta consider at what cost.
In the big picture cost won't be a huge factor on this build, but I am still so unsettled on where I want this to go. I absolutely want to throw a wider axles in the rear. But between that and a heart upgrade, powerhouse it is. Gotta plan long term when both my next upgrades will be at least 3 to 5k each.
 
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In the big picture cost won't be a huge factor on this build, but I am still so unsettled on where I want this to go. I absolutely want to throw a wider axles in the rear. But between that and a heart upgrade, powerhouse it is. Gotta plan long term when both my next upgrades will be at least 3 to 5k each.
Turbo and through a fabbed rear under it and run a link setup with a fuel cell and cage it and that's all you really need to do :D
 

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