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[AssBurns]

I’ve never cut .250” wall tube but my guess is just slow down and more lube. That’s some thick stuff to be cutting. What brand whole saw blades are you using? I’ve always used Milwaukee or Diablo blades. Those seemed to work well for me but again never messed with .250 wall notching.

 

[madtaco461]

I've only cut .120" wall DOM. I use Lenox. I drill around 120 rpms

 

[Arcticelf]

I’ve never cut .250” wall tube but my guess is just slow down and more lube. That’s some thick stuff to be cutting. What brand whole saw blades are you using? I’ve always used Milwaukee or Diablo blades. Those seemed to work well for me but again never messed with .250 wall notching.

I've been using benchmark abrasives and lenox blades.

 

[Thesandaddict]

any feedback on the WEN line? need a new planer, had the dewalt for years and loved it, just seeing if the budget brands have caught up yet or if i need to drop $550 again.

 

[kasnerd]

any feedback on the WEN line? need a new planer, had the dewalt for years and loved it, just seeing if the budget brands have caught up yet or if i need to drop $550 again.

Wen is meh ok. I have their drill press and bench grinder that do fine, but for planing...I dunno. I would assume you need a hand held for finish work and hanging doors in not-so-square jams? I would go something more name brand, especially if you plan on keeping it longer than the cutter head lasts, otherwise go cheap and no worries if it grows legs and walks off on a jobsite. My pick would be Bosch: https://www.boschtools.com/us/en/boschtools-ocs/planers-pl2632k-119308-p/

 

[theesotericone]

any feedback on the WEN line? need a new planer, had the dewalt for years and loved it, just seeing if the budget brands have caught up yet or if i need to drop $550 again.

Get another DeWalt. It's a 13" compared to 12" for most of the others. Going cheap on something like a benchtop planer won't end well.

@kasnerd He's talking about a benchtop. DeWalt's never made a $550 dollar 3" hand planer. lol

 

[kasnerd]

Get another DeWalt. It's a 13" compared to 12" for most of the others. Going cheap on something like a benchtop planer won't end well.

@kasnerd He's talking about a benchtop. DeWalt's never made a $550 dollar 3" hand planer. lol

ah yea, missed that... benchtop...dewalt dw375. period. end of story. nothing else compares in that price range. Also, outfeed has to be perfectly aligned to eliminate/reduce snipe. If @Thesandaddict can swing it, helical heads. It's on my next buy list. Looking at 8" jointers as well. Please someone take away my credit cards because my i401k is gonna be ignored for years to come between making sawdust and exhaust with the truck stuff.

 

[Stairgod]

ah yea, missed that... benchtop...dewalt dw375. period. end of story. nothing else compares in that price range. Also, outfeed has to be perfectly aligned to eliminate/reduce snipe. If @Thesandaddict can swing it, helical heads. It's on my next buy list. Looking at 8" jointers as well. Please someone take away my credit cards because my i401k is gonna be ignored for years to come between making sawdust and exhaust with the truck stuff.

Buy a cheap 6" jointer. Perfect for most DIY usage. Then buy helical cutterhead especially if you play with maple or highly figured hardwoods often. If not the standard straight blades work fine.

Planer pro tip: End of board snipe can NEVER be totally eliminated. Always leave the stock at least 12" longer than needed. Once dimensioned, and after joining and ripping, then and only then cut to final size.

 

[kasnerd]

Buy a cheap 6" jointer. Perfect for most DIY usage. Then buy helical cutterhead especially if you play with maple or highly figured hardwoods often. If not the standard straight blades work fine.

Planer pro tip: End of board snipe can NEVER be totally eliminated. Always leave the stock at least 12" longer than needed. Once dimensioned, and after joining and ripping, then and only then cut to final size.

yea 6" would be guaranteed helical upgrade on the savings instead of +8" setup. snipe never can be truly eliminated but on smaller stock with the feed wings can save a lot from the scrap pile. I did a bunch of 1x2 maple stock and only had a few sticks give me grief because they were all sorts of crooked to begin with. it was edge trim on a laminate top for a buddies office. they wanted new tops but durable edges, so we flush trimmed the laminate and wrapped it rock maple with a 1/8 chamfer. came out super nice. wish i had pics but it was a one day job and we were moving fast.

 

[Thesandaddict]

Get another DeWalt. It's a 13" compared to 12" for most of the others. Going cheap on something like a benchtop planer won't end well.

@kasnerd He's talking about a benchtop. DeWalt's never made a $550 dollar 3" hand planer. lol

That would be the festool lol actually I think their handplaner was 550+

 

[Thesandaddict]

Cool so pass on WEN, so delta or Dewalt. Had a delta tablesaw that was hands down the best unit I've ever had or used. The new stuff seems pretty commercial/plastic did they lose their name? I sold almost everything a few years back and trying to buy once not twice.

 

[theesotericone]

Had a delta tablesaw that was hands down the best unit I've ever had or used. The new stuff seems pretty commercial/plastic did they loose their name?

If you can find anything Delta pre-2000 I'd buy it. The new stuff isn't the same. But you can say that for just about any power tools made.

http://vintagemachinery.org/mfgindex/detail.aspx?id=1141

 

[Subway4x4]

ah yea, missed that... benchtop...dewalt dw375. period. end of story. nothing else compares in that price range. Also, outfeed has to be perfectly aligned to eliminate/reduce snipe. If @Thesandaddict can swing it, helical heads. It's on my next buy list. Looking at 8" jointers as well. Please someone take away my credit cards because my i401k is gonna be ignored for years to come between making sawdust and exhaust with the truck stuff.

Dewalt 735. Best 13” planer in its class. It’s about 15 years old. I think.

 

[Subway4x4]

New tool accessory alert!

Portable bandsaw table from Swagoffroad.com

My handy dandy sliding miter gauge fits perfectly.View attachment 31846

how long does it take to mount and setup for use?. That's really clever and seems useful if it is not a hastle going back and forth from hand held to bench stand.

The table insert is replaces the foot mount (removed) of the saw. You can easily mount and remove the saw/insert to switch between portable and table use.
The insert is pretty big so may hamper your ability to use the portable. Depends on how/what your cutting.

My guess is that ill use the saw on the table a lot more than as a portable, so I’m willing to deal with the cumbersome insert on rare occasions.

 

[Stairgod]

I don't mean to come off as a dick. Spent quite a few years planing rough stock that always had end checks so at least a 6" or more was waste. Always planed down to within an 1/8" of finish size then worked the stock from there ending up in the belt sander(30" Time Saver) for abrasive planing to final dimension. I understand how some can see any waste as a big loss. To me it was always the cost of manufacturing. Only planer I ever had under 30" is my 20" I have in my garage.

 

[Subway4x4]

I don't mean to come off as a dick. Spent quite a few years planing rough stock that always had end checks so at least a 6" or more was waste. Always planed down to within an 1/8" of finish size then worked the stock from there ending up in the belt sander(30" Time Saver) for abrasive planing to final dimension. I understand how some can see any waste as a big loss. To me it was always the cost of manufacturing. Only planer I ever had under 30" is my 20" I have in my garage.

Dick

 

[Subway4x4]

I don't mean to come off as a dick. Spent quite a few years planing rough stock that always had end checks so at least a 6" or more was waste. Always planed down to within an 1/8" of finish size then worked the stock from there ending up in the belt sander(30" Time Saver) for abrasive planing to final dimension. I understand how some can see any waste as a big loss. To me it was always the cost of manufacturing. Only planer I ever had under 30" is my 20" I have in my garage.

Dick... my favorite way to prevent snipe Is to follow the leading board with another board. Kinda like a “train” of boards (of course, only if the project calls for multiple same thickness material)

 

[Stairgod]

Dick... my favorite way to prevent snipe Is to follow the leading board with another board. Kinda like a “train” of boards (of course, only if the project calls for multiple same thickness material)

A bit hard to do when you are by yourself planing rough sawn oak 16' long

 

[Chris In Milwaukee]

A bit hard to do when you are by yourself planing rough sawn oak 16' long

Was just watching a video on this subject this weekend. No experience with it myself, but it seems like a solution you could potentially work with.

 

[Stairgod]

Was just watching a video on this subject this weekend. No experience with it myself, but it seems like a solution you could potentially work with.

Holy shit. That is not exactly what one could call a cost effective solution. Much easier to use longer stock.

Hell I even do that with framing lumber. If I need 15'-10" for rafters, I order 18s. Shit is always checked on the ends