Wow, considering you can get 10k single axles, that's sketchy as fuck if true.
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Wow, considering you can get 10k single axles, that's sketchy as fuck if true.
Yea I would never do it but I've seen some shady shit here
Stairgod
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Mine was a DI 7.3. According to Jody who did my tuner I was at 525 rwhp. I didn't fuck the crank. I popped an o-ringed head
Mine was a DI 7.3. According to Jody who did my tuner I was at 525 rwhp. I didn't fuck the crank. I popped an o-ringed head
Every 7.3 from 94.5 and up is DI.
The idi and Di 7.3s share nothing but an engine size.
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My bad. For some strange reason I had it in my head that the first gen Strokes were IDI.
Been driving Ford diesels since 88, and my best friend owned a 94 and currently owns a 95 & 99.
Ford ran the IDI 7.3 (Navistar AT190) from 87 to early 94.
In 1994, a turbo option on the IDI 7.3 upped the power to something resembling respectable at the time.
In 1994, you could get a non turbo IDI, a turbo IDI, and a Powerstroke (Turbo DI).
The badging on the trucks wasn't a good indicator either. My 94 just said "turbo diesel", I got it cheap cause the PO thought it was an IDI.
Believe me, owning a late 94 Powerstroke made me hate buying parts. 3 different diesel engine vins alone.
Fuck you ford.
So I went and started calling it a 95, until I found out that 95 brought small changes and updates, and some fuel system and engine parts weren't compstible.
FUCK YOU FORD.
Side note: it is funny though, that everyone says the 6bt in the Dodge's was such a game changing engine.
In 94, it had 160hp, and 400ftlb of torque.
In 94, a Ford 7.3 had 225hp, and 440ftlb.
So there's that. My 7.3 never felt gutless. And all it had was a full 4" exhaust, a 3" downpipe, and an intake.
In 1994, a turbo option on the IDI 7.3 upped the power to something resembling respectable at the time.
In 1994, you could get a non turbo IDI, a turbo IDI, and a Powerstroke (Turbo DI).
The badging on the trucks wasn't a good indicator either. My 94 just said "turbo diesel", I got it cheap cause the PO thought it was an IDI.
Believe me, owning a late 94 Powerstroke made me hate buying parts. 3 different diesel engine vins alone.
Fuck you ford.
So I went and started calling it a 95, until I found out that 95 brought small changes and updates, and some fuel system and engine parts weren't compstible.
FUCK YOU FORD.
Side note: it is funny though, that everyone says the 6bt in the Dodge's was such a game changing engine.
In 94, it had 160hp, and 400ftlb of torque.
In 94, a Ford 7.3 had 225hp, and 440ftlb.
So there's that. My 7.3 never felt gutless. And all it had was a full 4" exhaust, a 3" downpipe, and an intake.
OlDirtyBilly
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I know you're looking for something with a bed, but 2500 suburbans or an excursion are a good bit cheaper than the pickups with the same tow rating, just no 5th wheeloption, or stock diesel for the chev. I had a '97 2500 suburban with a 3500 full float 14 bolt, add a leaf and airbags that towed a 3 horse trailer it's whole life. I just hauled some feed and jumped it a bunch, but she was an absolute unit. 454 ate everything up too like a fuckin champ
It was like that at one point, but a modern Suburban is not as heavy duty as a truck. They're coil rear (and not like a ram HD has a coil rear), strut front, ride quality SUVs.
The full-size body on frame SUVs are all halfton based now, with similar GVWs, but the payload is lower because they are bloated and full of options.
There was talk of a 3/4 ton diesel Ford SUV again, but it'd be way out of @AssBurns price range, and it's not yet even in production.
He'd have to go back to the 07-14 body style Suburban to get a truck style body. Somewhere around when the trucks updates, so too did the SUVs.
They also only came with a 6.0, which are known to be absolutely terrible on fuel.
OlDirtyBilly
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Ah, they stopped selling the 2500 burb in 07 commercially and still make them for up-armored use like secret service, but I haven't looked under anything newer than mine. Bummer they gimped 'em, that was the lake house/ hockey family golden standard rig
Well they did make suburbans with the 6.0 and 8.1 on 2500/3500 frames, and ford had the diesel 7.3 and 6.0 excursions. And i have seen the late 90s suburbans with diesels, ex govt vehicles I believe with manual hubs and vinyl floors
The 6.5, much of a turd as it was, was popular enough in the Tahoe's. Particularly the 2 door variants.
But boy, was a shite motor. Leave it to fucking Detroit to cock up a simple thing like a 180hp V8 diesel. International pulled it off for fuck sake.
Manual hubs on a late 90s chev would be pointless, as the axle is actuated between active and inactive at the center, not at the hubs.
Hubs being the lockout are a Ford, and Japanese thing, mostly. Ford loves their vacuum hubs (like Toyota), others used an automatic mechanical hub (Nissan/Isuzu)
The 8.1 'burb died in late 06, as did the 8.1. when they went to the new body style in 07, the 6.0 was the only HD gas motor chev had. The 8.1 was dragging down their stock fuel economy ratings and wasn't a huge seller.
Oddly enough, chev sold a 3/4 ton Avalanche (yeah, the weird unibody looking thing) with an 8.1 as the only engine option. I've never seen one in person. 4l85, 14b rear, whole works.
As for the frames, for some time, both Chev and Dodge used the identical frame for 1/2, 3/4, and 1 ton trucks. Dodge started it for sure in 1994, and carried it through to the 4th gen redesign in 2008ish, to keep costs and tooling down.
Each just designed one frame and ran different running gear under it. Chev had to put a 2" body lift on their diesel trucks to fit the turbo under the firewall.
It got to the point where chev used the same engine bays as well, with the halftons/gas trucks having a large open space in the bay where a diesels second battery would go.
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My single cab Dodge Ram 1500 is small but my Tacoma just fine on an 18 ft 7k open trailer. Has brakes on the rear axle. Just have to get the tongue weight right. Truck has the 5.7 so power isn’t an issue. Just have to brake extra early. Recently added cheap air bags to the rear of the dodge which helped out huge.
I’ve towed my Tacoma from Vegas to the rubicon and back with no issues (1000 miles plus or minus) along with to moab and sand hollow countless other times. Only had the transmission get hot one time and that was up a large grade for like 30 miles going to the rubicon.
And I average about 10-12 miles to gallon which also a plus considering my dads f250 gasser towing only gets 8 or so.
although I like my little dodge I still want to upgrade to either an f250 or ram 2500. Still probably won’t be a diesel but we will see
I’ve towed my Tacoma from Vegas to the rubicon and back with no issues (1000 miles plus or minus) along with to moab and sand hollow countless other times. Only had the transmission get hot one time and that was up a large grade for like 30 miles going to the rubicon.
And I average about 10-12 miles to gallon which also a plus considering my dads f250 gasser towing only gets 8 or so.
although I like my little dodge I still want to upgrade to either an f250 or ram 2500. Still probably won’t be a diesel but we will see
What's yours rated for? You tow with it. Why don't you fucking share.
His is the 6.0 it's around the same as a tundra
i'm a huge fan of the 6.7. it literally gives zero f's pulling that skip loader/goose neck (~18klbs). I spent a few years using my titan as a work truck, sure it had loads of power, 1st gear was stupid torquey, but loading up the dump trailer took it's toll on it. Now i want a bigger dump trailer lol. IMO the previous gen body with the 6.7 is even better, less people complaining about death wobble. IDK what ford did but TONS of guys in the aluminum f250's have death wobble. At this point for 30k i think any truck you get will be equally great for you. Rams seem to be more cost effective, if you can get a coil spring rear end one that'd be great, those ride SO DAMN NICE. half tons are great but after owning a 3/4 i see what i've been missing.
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My ford. Not many photos of it towing, I wasn't much into the whole "take photos of your truck" thing at the time.
It towed that chev halfton like an absolute champ.
My dodge. It hauled more commonly than my ford.
It towed that Corolla before I managed to rebuild the manual trans I swapped in. Had no business hauling that car home.
Hauled a bobcat here and there, and the box was heaped with crushed rock a time or two.
Remember when I said Cummins engines leak? And it's a bitch?
Yeah. . .
Tappet cover, valve covers, front timing gear case and accessory drive, and everything required.
The real bitch of it?
This still didn't fully stop it from leaking.
I've seen a few 6.7 for sale already dipping into the 30m and less range due to mileage. 150k on 2014 but they seem to be holding up well.
Isnt death wobble mainly from worn steering components?
Isnt death wobble mainly from worn steering components?