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theesotericone

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You guys are funny. Next stop on the slippery slope is an RTT.

Then you will be one of the cool kids like me.

You have a fridge too? That and an RTT seem to be all the rage. Cold beer and a place to sleep doesn't need to be that fucking complicated. lol

Don't tell @AssBurns but I'm about 30 seconds away from ordering a 1/2" body lift. lol

This tubbing without one shit sucks.
 

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You have a fridge too? That and an RTT seem to be all the rage. Cold beer and a place to sleep doesn't need to be that fucking complicated. lol

Don't tell @AssBurns but I'm about 30 seconds away from ordering a 1/2" body lift. lol

This tubbing without one shit sucks.
I know the feeling. My core support is starting to crumble and I'm getting some rubbing now. I need to completely cut out the inner fenders and an engine cage now.

Also, I'd love a fridge, just not a RTT or roof rack
 

theesotericone

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I know the feeling. My core support is starting to crumble and I'm getting some rubbing now. I need to completely cut out the inner fenders and an engine cage now.

I went really big on the tub but I know it's still gonna rub. I can't go any bigger without fully redoing the fender wells in the engine bay. But I can throw on a 1/2" BL and be good. I've been debating it for a few days. Part of me wants to cave in to the easy way and the other part wants to be a head strong dipshit. It's gonna come down to a coin toss. lol
 

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I went really big on the tub but I know it's still gonna rub. I can't go any bigger without fully redoing the fender wells in the engine bay. But I can throw on a 1/2" BL and be good. I've been debating it for a few days. Part of me wants to cave in to the easy way and the other part wants to be a head strong dipshit. It's gonna come down to a coin toss. lol
At that point, you gotta decide what the effort/cost/time trade-offs are. With only 1/2" BL, you won't notice any real gap in the bumpers. Plus it may save a ton of extra work in the fender wells
 

theesotericone

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At that point, you gotta decide what the effort/cost/time trade-offs are. With only 1/2" BL, you won't notice any real gap in the bumpers. Plus it may save a ton of extra work in the fender wells

The trade-off is a blow to my pride. How much shit have I talked about doing it without a BL? I'll finish it up, wheel it and let that be the deciding factor. Fat Pats has the 1/2" for 50 bucks so it's cheap if I go that route.
 

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WTF? Really? What's next? A body lift? lol

You guys are funny. Next stop on the slippery slope is an RTT.

Then you will be one of the cool kids like me.

Have kids, will travel. That roof rack on my rig holds a lot of shit for comfort. If he's happy, I'm yelling a lot less, and I'm happy.

On the flip side. When I'm solo, it's bare minimum and I sleep in the back.
 

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Can I be the retard in the back of the room that raises his hand?

Why are BLs avoided so religiously? Center of gravity?
 

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counterpoint: if a BL allows you to run the equivalent reduction in suspension lift without affecting your articulation, you've actually improved your CoG. (the frame & driveline are the heavy parts.) Plus improved front CV stress, all things being equal.

ALSO - if you compare the body mounts on 3rd and 4th gen (and the body to frame gap) - you can see where Toyota built a BL into the mounts on the 4th gen; likely for the same reasons.
 

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counterpoint: if a BL allows you to run the equivalent reduction in suspension lift without affecting your articulation, you've actually improved your CoG. (the frame & driveline are the heavy parts.) Plus improved front CV stress, all things being equal.

ALSO - if you compare the body mounts on 3rd and 4th gen (and the body to frame gap) - you can see where Toyota built a BL into the mounts on the 4th gen; likely for the same reasons.

It's funny because my Tacoma sits higher on the frame than my 4th gen does. I may go 1/2" to get some bumper and wheel well clearance.
 
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You have a fridge too? That and an RTT seem to be all the rage. Cold beer and a place to sleep doesn't need to be that fucking complicated. lol

Don't tell @AssBurns but I'm about 30 seconds away from ordering a 1/2" body lift. lol

This tubbing without one shit sucks.

Yup - fridge too. I like my fridge better than my RTT. And I have .... a roof rack .....

Maybe I need an intervention of some kind.
 

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Maybe I need a better paying job. Lol

You just need to keep an eye open for deals. I'd expect to start seeing more fridges on the used market with the way the overlanders are dumping RTTs. Although mine doubles as a beer fridge in the garage when it's not in the rig. You can pick up a new one for under 600 if you look for the right deals. It won't be an ARB, but a lot of the chinese ones are running the same compressor now anyway. I know mine does and I paid 500 for it.
 

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counterpoint: if a BL allows you to run the equivalent reduction in suspension lift without affecting your articulation, you've actually improved your CoG. (the frame & driveline are the heavy parts.) Plus improved front CV stress, all things being equal.

ALSO - if you compare the body mounts on 3rd and 4th gen (and the body to frame gap) - you can see where Toyota built a BL into the mounts on the 4th gen; likely for the same reasons.
I guess it depends on how you are comparing. You gotta consider your ground clearance too. Having a 2" suspension lift and 1" BL, helps with tire clearance and has a lower COG than a 3" suspension lift, but a 3" suspension lift has more belly clearance. BUT if you compare apples to apples, then a 2" suspension lift without a BL will have the same ground clearance as a 2"+1", but will have an even lower COG.

There are Pro's and Con's of both options. I prefer no body lift, but in reality a body lift isn't THAT bad. I just prefer the lowest COG option, and don't mind hacking into my rig.
 

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You gotta consider your ground clearance too. Having a 2" suspension lift and 1" BL, helps with tire clearance and has a lower COG than a 3" suspension lift, but a 3" suspension lift has more belly clearance.

except tank, except transfer case, yada yada.. ;)

guess what's also really doable with a 1" BL? (rhymes with bat flelly) :p
 

theesotericone

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and don't mind hacking into my rig.

And encouraging others(ME!) to hack into theirs. What you neglected to tell me is the hacking is the easy part. Putting shit back together and making it all look good is a bitch. lol

except tank, except transfer case, yada yada.. ;)

guess what's also really doable with a 1" BL? (rhymes with bat flelly) :p

After the cutting I just did I think a 1/2" is all I will need. My bellies pretty damn flat with Savage skids. I just need to get the gas tank relocated(eventually) and there's not much to hang up on under my rig. Except that damn diff which even a fat blelly won't fix. lol
 

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After the cutting I just did I think a 1/2" is all I will need. My bellies pretty damn flat with Savage skids. I just need to get the gas tank relocated(eventually) and there's not much to hang up on under my rig. Except that damn diff which even a fat blelly won't fix. lol

but - stock link mounts, transfer case, tank?
 

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And encouraging others(ME!) to hack into theirs. What you neglected to tell me is the hacking is the easy part. Putting shit back together and making it all look good is a bitch. lol

haha - tru dat; Steven has an Easy Button somewhere, lol.


 
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