How else are they supposed to get back across the border?
Tundra real world value?
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How else are they supposed to get back across the border?
A flatdeck with a small SUV or tacoma on it will weight 6,000 pounds.
This guy is talking about 12,000. That's a big difference.
Gonna sell the taco too?
Whatcha think about the new Nissan Titans with a Cummins engine in them
But Cummins engines are awesome, what dodges did you have before? A buddy has a 2012...? Ram 1500 and it kinda blows but the diesel version is pretty solid... also Ford blehhh
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He is white washed so.just him amd his family ... I'll find out what size and weight ... it's just a regular f150 nothing fancy
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Yea I think it's going to go also ... just need to clean it up and get it ready ... VW is going to go also ... going to get a full size truck
Hey guys! Sounds like the overlanders are starting to sell their stuff. Maybe this fad is finally on its way out.
The last time Cummins made a V8 it wasn't good. This time won't prove much different. FIAT/Chrysler/Dodge had the chance to negotiate on that engine and passed.
To give an idea of the needless engineering in there, the turbo has been integrated into the intake. Not, part of a system, integrated.
Plus, the rest of the truck is a product of Nissan as owned by Renault.
You don't want a Nissanault. Being bought by the French was bad for Nissan.
The VM Motori V6 in the ram 1500 (the EcoDiesel) is a decent mill. Had some timing chain issues in the early years but they've been sorted and updated since. VM Motori has been making diesels since before Cummins existed. They're fine.
Engines are great, but the rest of the truck has to work around them. Dodge has always had great engines, but the rest of the package has sometimes been suspect.
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I dont go out much so I'm tired of seeing a perfectly capable truck going to waste. Maybe someone else could get better use out of it. It wont be pieced out thats for sure
I had a 2010 Dakota with the v8 and a same year ram with the hemi as work trucks and they rode like marshmallows, got horrible mpg, always had something little wrong with them (spare tire lock broke, dragged a spare, d ring pulled out of the bed, driveshaft separated at the yoke, etc)
All of our chase trucks are fords. We upgraded from bulletproofed 6.0 to the new 6.7 4 years ago, they have all been abused and overloaded everytime they are out, have had Mexico diesel in them, abused some more, and overloaded some more, and for 40k miles have zero issues.
To be fair, modern halfton trucks are divided in two camps.
Ford makes a halfton that tries to be a 3/4 ton (towing cap, work duty shit, stiff suspension, etc) until you get into the really high end trims.
They do this because they want ALL truck sales.
And Chev/Dodge make comfortable halftons that can do some stuff, and are road couches.
Dodge blatantly does this. If you want capability, you jump to the HD trucks. They separate them like that so that the guy who needs capability pays the extra 15-20 for an HD truck. It's to upsell people. Chev/Dodge know they won't outsell the F150, so they bring the fight to the HD game.
The 6.7 probably saved Ford's 3/4 ton. People were getting right fucking sick of the 6.0 and 6.4. I've encountered plenty of gas powered HD trucks up here (anecdotal, I know).
And up in Canuckistan, Dodge has the big sales on the diesel market.
Ford makes a halfton that tries to be a 3/4 ton (towing cap, work duty shit, stiff suspension, etc) until you get into the really high end trims.
They do this because they want ALL truck sales.
And Chev/Dodge make comfortable halftons that can do some stuff, and are road couches.
Dodge blatantly does this. If you want capability, you jump to the HD trucks. They separate them like that so that the guy who needs capability pays the extra 15-20 for an HD truck. It's to upsell people. Chev/Dodge know they won't outsell the F150, so they bring the fight to the HD game.
The 6.7 probably saved Ford's 3/4 ton. People were getting right fucking sick of the 6.0 and 6.4. I've encountered plenty of gas powered HD trucks up here (anecdotal, I know).
And up in Canuckistan, Dodge has the big sales on the diesel market.
Its embarrassing that Toyota doesn't take any of this shit seriously. The tundra was decent as a gen 1. They should've kept it as an entry level mid size truck and brought a new model to the market as a true 1/2 ton with the gen 2. But toyota being toyota and not updating the gen 2 for 14 years was stupid. And having nothing for the diesel market or HD market is silly. At least Nissan and dodge have an option for 1/2 tons, and gmc/Chevy has the colorado/canyon diesel, whether or not it's good is irrelevant.
Still a toyota fanboy because I've never had real issues with any vehicle, and knowing that my compromise for longevity and quality just to get a little more power and capability sucks. I would 100% be all over a 3/4 or 1 ton toyota diesel truck, just like every other idiot that's been crying about it for the last decade.
And to bitch more, while the diesel market here is booming, on vacation we noticed EVERYTHING I'd diesel. And they are getting insane mileage. Our ford averaged 45mpg. And that was with 90% mountain passes. The epa crap here is crippling in so mny ways i feel.
Still a toyota fanboy because I've never had real issues with any vehicle, and knowing that my compromise for longevity and quality just to get a little more power and capability sucks. I would 100% be all over a 3/4 or 1 ton toyota diesel truck, just like every other idiot that's been crying about it for the last decade.
And to bitch more, while the diesel market here is booming, on vacation we noticed EVERYTHING I'd diesel. And they are getting insane mileage. Our ford averaged 45mpg. And that was with 90% mountain passes. The epa crap here is crippling in so mny ways i feel.
Yeah fuel in those other countries is also 8 bucks a gallon.
And they don't run the power we do here.
To give an example, here, a pickup has 400hp.
Across the pond, a 5 ton cube truck has 175.
The slimmer diesel market here can be attributed to Chev way the fuck back in the 70s.
The 4.3 Olds and 5.7 chev diesels ruined public opinion for literal DECADES. Mercedes pulled their diesels off the NA market because of how badly chev fucked it up.
Getting back on the fuel economy idea, if people in North America could handle lower power, they'd get better economy. The 2.8L diesel that came in my rodeo in other markets is fully capable of 35-40mpg. In the 90s. It's a mechanical diesel.
It also makes 115hp at 3500rpm.
Would you like that in a 4,000lb SUV?
As for the HD market, it'd have to be built in North America or be subject to a ton of tariffs, and it'd take hundreds of millions to break into a paradigm dominated market. Why would Toyota or Honda spend the crazy money to break into a market they have no chance of taking a significant share in?
Look at it this way: for a decade, Ford had the worst diesel engine of the big 3.
Their sales didn't slip enough to warrant them pulling out of the market.
And they don't run the power we do here.
To give an example, here, a pickup has 400hp.
Across the pond, a 5 ton cube truck has 175.
The slimmer diesel market here can be attributed to Chev way the fuck back in the 70s.
The 4.3 Olds and 5.7 chev diesels ruined public opinion for literal DECADES. Mercedes pulled their diesels off the NA market because of how badly chev fucked it up.
Getting back on the fuel economy idea, if people in North America could handle lower power, they'd get better economy. The 2.8L diesel that came in my rodeo in other markets is fully capable of 35-40mpg. In the 90s. It's a mechanical diesel.
It also makes 115hp at 3500rpm.
Would you like that in a 4,000lb SUV?
As for the HD market, it'd have to be built in North America or be subject to a ton of tariffs, and it'd take hundreds of millions to break into a paradigm dominated market. Why would Toyota or Honda spend the crazy money to break into a market they have no chance of taking a significant share in?
Look at it this way: for a decade, Ford had the worst diesel engine of the big 3.
Their sales didn't slip enough to warrant them pulling out of the market.
After driving several vehicles over there I would be 100% ok with how the have vehicles set up. Especially in a passenger vehicle. As for a truck, as long as the torque is there I could compromise. I get it that the market here is retarded in that everyone thinks they need a giant, luxurious $85k f350 platinum, but in reality we obviously don't. But we have a unique set of needs as well. I noticed that caravans were HUGE there, but not many toyhauler. Obviously that could be a location thing or market thing, but here we have vehicular toys.
So give me a bare bones truck or SUV that gets hi teens low 20s fuel consumption, can tow 10-15k lbs and not get single digit mileage isn't the size of a house and won't break down every other month and I'll get right in line.
So give me a bare bones truck or SUV that gets hi teens low 20s fuel consumption, can tow 10-15k lbs and not get single digit mileage isn't the size of a house and won't break down every other month and I'll get right in line.
So get a diesel and delete it.
A deleted and tuned diesel will do 13-15mpg loaded and cruising.
A deleted and tuned diesel will do 13-15mpg loaded and cruising.
That's the plan stan.
Good deal.
As a note, the f250 is less commonly sold in a more base trim, than the are F350.
3/4 tons are status symbols. So if you aren't after leather and an infotainment system, an SRW 350 might be a better option.
As a note, the f250 is less commonly sold in a more base trim, than the are F350.
3/4 tons are status symbols. So if you aren't after leather and an infotainment system, an SRW 350 might be a better option.